BLACK FRIDAY CLUES TO THE IDAHO STUDENT MURDERS CASE - WHAT'S OF VALUE?

Having now read articles or watched videos - at least a hundred - searching for new information on this case, I can tell you that there are many news media that have not and are not up on the latest and reporting erroneously. Mish-mashing like that is not responsible journalism. Piggy backing on main stream news by citizens is not the same as news media and responsible journalists not even knowing what has already been broadcast. Speculations and amateur sleuths can sometimes be valuable to an investigation as well but that's not the same as news media and responsible journalists being so out of it when it comes to the competitor's reportage, the scoops. I watched one news outlet that had a group of people discussing the case and it was clear they were about three days behind. 

WHAT'S OF VALUE?

The first thing to do as you search for information on this horrible murder scene is to forget any psychic medium predictions or tarot card readings. Sorry... Don't waste your time.

Second... Forget any criticisms that the police are inept or bumbling. The local force called in experts right away and the FBI is on it, a million more dollars towards the investigation is incoming... A great number of hours have been spent and will be spent. Be it that the killer has killed before or not, be it that this is the work of a serial killer and can be tied into one or two other, somewhat similar murders, they are not just looking BACK, they want to find the killer or killers SO THEY DON'T GET TO KILL AGAIN. They are doing everything they can and far more than they could have ever done in the days before DNA.  This is not a television show or film where crimes are solved as you watch. This real time crime research has already been aided by technology when it comes to the timeline especially which it would not have had as an advantage before video cameras on food trucks and before cell phone calls. So, if these murders happened even 20 years ago, they would have to proceed with none of that information.

Third ... Dr. Todd Grande...  making an issue of the phone call someone made reporting an unconscious person rather than a blood bath...  I'm NOT in the psychology profession but I can tell you this... This man does not know his stuff.

WHAT LIKELY HAPPENED IS THAT THE PERSON SAW ONE BODY, maybe by opening a bedroom door that was unlocked slightly, to peer in because they wanted to respect the right and need of privacy, and did not see the bloodbath.

If you are living with someone and had a late night yourself or know they are usually up by a certain time and you're sure they're home but hours have passed and you start to wonder, well, how do you know why they're in their room?  Maybe they have someone in there with them or are ill.  I can imagine a person going to the door, calling a name, knocking gently... taking a while to open the door. Who would think that they were going to come upon a crime scene?

Or if they did, they may have gone into shock and not been able to process it mentally.  I don't know the name for that condition but I know that people who are terribly frightened cannot always process and there is also something called a cover memory. That person may have called friends over for comfort or advice and unable to say or do more. A group of friends may have assembled to talk about what to do. In youth some of that discussion might be about who to tell because your friends are trusted more than your parents or authority figures.  So they bonded, trying to figure out what to say or do.  

THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO UP ON WHY the two women whose bedrooms were on the first floor, the original part of the house, might not have been awakened by the murders taking place upstairs. Floor plans and explanation by Johnny Law.

Daily Mail (UK - ONLINE) broke the news that a witness had told the police that the girls had drunk a lot at the bar and that one of them was stumbling tipsy. They had not nursed a beer for the night. The food truck video also reveals this - a swaying and stumble. Also news is that the person who was giving them a ride home (about a five minute ride if that) called to them to hurry up and they left the food truck without paying. The food truck employee says he gave them the food anyway so it's more that they were not paying attention and ran to get the ride. They had to get home and eat that food there. Likely they are regulars who always pay so no fuss was made.  THE FACT THAT TWO OF THE GIRLS WERE DRUNK after up to about three hours at the bar, means to me that they got right home, could have been sloppy about the door lock, but likely just fell into bed, half passed out, and would have been INATTENTIVE. So much for the sister of one of them going on about how aware and safety aware her sister was.  When a person is drunk, especially very drunk, they are unable to be as aware as a person who is sober and well rested.  Sorry!  This falls right in line with my idea that frats and sororities and party houses are a lot about alcohol and alcoholism and that party anywhere is assumed to include alcohol.

All these people on media and in videos saying "So what, all college students drink, get drunk, party..." THEY ARE SO WRONG.  I didn't and I don't think most students who care about their grades or who work and go to school have the party and booze  or/and drugs lifestyle.

Further, the same sister says that it was normal for her sister to call people late and in the middle of the night, even to ask someone what she should make for a meal.  This is not normal or acceptable behavior. It's not even easy for me to understand why someone who was excelling in college, going to graduate, and start a good job, all that, would not know better. No concern for other people's sleep? That needy? Why would anyone have their phone on to take calls after their bed time? If someone tried to rouse me with repetitive phone calls after I went to bed and it was not an emergency, especially if this was ongoing, I would not be able to stay friends with them. I recall I once had an associate who said taking such calls was the 'price of friendship' but I thought that she and I were not friends and that it was a very high price. Yes, if someone is a close friend and going through a bad time, you want to be there for them, and you might tell them to call you any time. I've done some time talking to a depressed person to get them to the dawn, but this as a habit and for trivial things...? The woman was not normal and seems desperate for attention. So one can imagine being woken or home and not taking the calls just to try and discourage them from that behavior.

The reportage says that the time stamp on those calls means that they were calls made before the murder...  could be... COULD also be that with the last bit of breath or energy that one or two of them had, they called Jack because Jack was the person they felt closest to - for help - or to say I'm dying I love you...  I know you might think that such a call would be to 911 or the police but maybe as you're bleeding out you don't think of that, or the 911 number was not right there in the phone. It's also possible the calls were made while a murder was happening in another room.  Someone woke up and again thought of Jack...

As I was telling a friend I met up with Thanksgiving, after a major earthquake, after checking in on an elderly neighbor who did need help, the first thing I did was try to connect with the person who was my best friend at the time, wanting to be sure they were OK.  And another time when I experienced a crisis, I found myself calling an old best friend. I just recalled an old phone number and had dialed it before I realized what I was doing.

So, basically, the many calls to Jack, a long time boyfriend, friend of the family, and good guy, should not be condemning to Jack.

Bleeding out.  An early report said they had been stabbed in the upper body.  Mention of where they were stabbed seems to have fallen out of reportage. Would a person awaken from a drunken pass out or deep sleep at the first pain? Well, not if the first stab was in the heart or another vulnerable place... I tried to find out how long a person takes to bleed out and die and it depends on where they were stabbed but THREE MINUTES was the given on the Internet. 

MARK FUHRMAN - Believe him, he's good, and he knew what happened when Nicole Brown Simpson was murdered too.  We do need to be patient and let the analysis come when ready. The term sloppy has been thrown around.  Sloppy Killer. Sloppy investigation.  I think what was meant by sloppy killer is that he or she or they left evidence, and if they had a plan once they got into the house and into action were finding out their fantasies were not how it goes in reality. That's generally good for the detectives.

The knife. Sadly, I get advertisements for the latest military grade knives and other survival equipment including a "flashlight" that has a focused flame that cuts through metal, on YouTube videos.  A person does not have to go to a store to buy anything these days.  Autopsy : They know the length of knife from the depth of the stabs.

KEEP IT IN THE NEWS ; Unsold murder mysteries, called Cold Cases, once they go away on media tend to go into a file and are forgotten.  Do you know something or think you could help with speculations? Having a child murdered hurts the parents forever...and so I wonder if there is any chance that one or all of them were killed to hurt someone else, threaten someone else, you know like in organized crime.